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Post Posted: 06/27/16 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Bumping this thread back up due to popular demand. I still plan on updating it and adding more recent years in the near future.


Any update to this? Would love some more recent year info.


I'm hoping sometime this summer.
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Post Posted: 06/28/16 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Insomniac186 wrote:
I'm hoping sometime this summer.


Looking forward to this. Would be helpful when buying older poly's that have to be bought a size up.

Farmer's post is helpful but it actually raises a question for me. I have a Cubs two-tone alt from 07-08 (discontinued after that year according to PSC) and it has the black tagging, not blue. If it's fake, they did a magnificent job with it: nothing else is off besides the AC tag and it might have the most comfortable poly of any cap I own.
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Post Posted: 06/28/16 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Insomniac186 wrote:
I'm hoping sometime this summer.


Looking forward to this. Would be helpful when buying older poly's that have to be bought a size up.

Farmer's post is helpful but it actually raises a question for me. I have a Cubs two-tone alt from 07-08 (discontinued after that year according to PSC) and it has the black tagging, not blue. If it's fake, they did a magnificent job with it: nothing else is off besides the AC tag and it might have the most comfortable poly of any cap I own.


It's either a 2007 or 2008. I'll have to check my notes. It's legit though.
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Post Posted: 06/29/16 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I believe the first poly tags were black in 2006-2007.


I have a wool hat with a raised batterman from the mid 2000s. How often do you see those?
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Post Posted: 06/29/16 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I believe the first poly tags were black in 2006-2007.


I have a wool hat with a raised batterman from the mid 2000s. How often do you see those?


Weird!

I had a 2002-2006 Angels with a grey undervisor and "Genuine Merchandise" tag.
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Post Posted: 06/30/16 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I believe the first poly tags were black in 2006-2007.


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It's either a 2007 or 2008. I'll have to check my notes. It's legit though.


Good to hear. All of the pre-Cool Base poly's I'd seen on Ebay had the black tagging until I went looking for a blue tag poly after reading Farmer's post. I had just assumed the black tagging was standard for that period.
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Post Posted: 06/30/16 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Guy Gadbois wrote:
XclickX wrote:
I believe the first poly tags were black in 2006-2007.


Insomniac186 wrote:
It's either a 2007 or 2008. I'll have to check my notes. It's legit though.


Good to hear. All of the pre-Cool Base poly's I'd seen on Ebay had the black tagging until I went looking for a blue tag poly after reading Farmer's post. I had just assumed the black tagging was standard for that period.


Yep. And ironically, the blue tag poly caps are really hard to find nowadays. I only have 2. You can find more diamond collection wool caps than the very first poly caps (blue tags)

Also I think the 2016 caps have the words ''NE'' in Gray/Silver as shown in the Orlando Pirates cap compared to older ones being black and white
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Post Posted: 07/01/16 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually the VERY FIRST polys had ALL BLACK tags. I have one I bought during spring training 2007 that's the Boston Red Sox. The Blue tag came out around June or July that season I believe cause I bought a Reds hat that had a blue tag that summer. I've never seen many with the all black tags, why they changed to blue mid season I don't know. They used those until the cool base tags came out.
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Post Posted: 07/01/16 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have an '07 Rays (old logo) and '08 WS Rays (current boring logo) both have blue tags.

Also, my '07 Indians road cap has blue tags.
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Post Posted: 11/02/16 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would that make this Oakland A's Green Crown Yellow Brim cap a 1994-1996 year range then?

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Post Posted: 11/03/16 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would that make this Oakland A's Green Crown Yellow Brim cap a 1994-1996 year range then?



1993 I'd say.

FYI everyone, an update is still planned. I'm still far too busy. I literally have one night a week to myself to dedicate to my many hobbies right now.
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Post Posted: 04/11/19 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone know what year this hat may be from?
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Post Posted: 04/12/19 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Never mind! I followed the blog link posted earlier in this thread.
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Post Posted: 04/12/19 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tducken, not to confuse things too much from farmermaggots post, there were two eras of the cap you have

The earlier 2001-2003 had MADE IN USA on the middle new era tags. Then around 2003-2005, the MADE IN USA stopped showing up in that spot.



I haven't been able to exactly pinpoint the year it changed, but earlier 2001 era caps had MUSA listed and I have some 2005 like the one above.

The ballcap blog is real nice.
http://ballcapblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/chronology-of-new-era-cap-tags.html?m=1
But it's missing some oddities.

This one I want to place as an early first year poly

Ahead of the white/blue tag

We really need someone to step up for historical sake and get a solid update going.

I do know 1995-2000 era caps have some real tricky tagging. Some of the authentic collection tags mix and match with the size tags and NE tags. So you'll have two elements going to 1999, but there's an older tag marking it more to 1996. All three elements don't often lineup, so you have to ballpark it tov a common 2-4 year era. I'll try to post some examples later.

If anyone wants to collaborate on getting a common era post going, PM me
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Post Posted: 04/12/19 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wallyhopp wrote:
Tducken, not to confuse things too much from farmermaggots post, there were two eras of the cap you have

The earlier 2001-2003 had MADE IN USA on the middle new era tags. Then around 2003-2005, the MADE IN USA stopped showing up in that spot.



I haven't been able to exactly pinpoint the year it changed, but earlier 2001 era caps had MUSA listed and I have some 2005 like the one above.

The ballcap blog is real nice.
http://ballcapblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/chronology-of-new-era-cap-tags.html?m=1
But it's missing some oddities.

This one I want to place as an early first year poly

Ahead of the white/blue tag

We really need someone to step up for historical sake and get a solid update going.

I do know 1995-2000 era caps have some real tricky tagging. Some of the authentic collection tags mix and match with the size tags and NE tags. So you'll have two elements going to 1999, but there's an older tag marking it more to 1996. All three elements don't often lineup, so you have to ballpark it tov a common 2-4 year era. I'll try to post some examples later.

If anyone wants to collaborate on getting a common era post going, PM me


Tim (@sdhatcollectors on Twitter) is supposedly doing an update. I'd love to do it but I'm just too busy these days.
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